Citation Issues

Citing FamilySearch Databases vs Catalogs/Collections

Dear Editor,

Hopefully my query falls within the scope of this forum! I'm struggling to understand and differentiate between the various 'collections' at FamilySearch in order to craft an accurate citation...

Take the following image (leaving aside the issue of persistent URLs):

Citing Announcements from sites like

Dear Editor;

I've tried to follow the lead of the example for, "Newspaper Articles (Online Images)," p. 808, 3rd ed., Evidence Explained.

However; I have some questions about citing the situation in which there is no author, an inadequate title and no parent collection.

Here is my attempt at citing such a case:

Source List Entry

Citing/Not Citing the Record Office

Hi, all. I questioned someone about her citation, and she pointed me to page 389/90 in EE's 3rd edition. The problem I had with her citation is that she only cited the FHL film and not the original record. Here's what EE says under "Citing the Record Office" in the last sentence: "In your First Reference Note, you do not have to cite the original record office, because you did not actually use the original records, although many researchers do prefer to include it." 

Citing the National Probate Index for Scotland

Dear Editor;

On Ancestry, I found images of the 1932, Volume M-Z, National Probate Index for [Edinburgh] Scotland. It a court register, which was "Duplicated by His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1926." I don't know if it was originally in manuscript form and was typed in order to duplicate it.

The situation is a bit complicated and I would appreciate your advice on how to deal with this.

"image 360" is the title page, which provides a lot of information on the identity of the document.

"image 409" is the page on which the data for Charles Murison appears.

Ancestry Source-of-the-Source Issues

Dear Editor;

I've read over QuickLesson 26. I've done this several times. However; I still find citing the source of the Ancestry info to be the single most frustrating aspect of using their data.

I understand that we should use the form, "citing ' [Ancestry's stated source-of-source]'." Unfortunately; the punctuation, element ordering and lack of completeness of the stated information, often drives me crazy. The latter point introduces the risk that the data cannot easily be found, even of the noted original site.

Citing a photocopy of an FHL microfilm frame

Dear Editor;

In 2003, I ordered a print of an entry on an FHL microfilm. Recently, I needed to create citation for the image. The type of citations that EE does did not exist at that time. So, I needed to go and do some forensic work to obtain the information from my research notes and the current film catalog. Even with the EE examples, it was still an intimidating task.

I've put together the following citation and would appreciate your feedback.

How does one cite the "ever changing" ScotlandsPeople?

Dear Editor;

ScotlandsPeople seems to have changed frequently over the last 15 or more years. It comes as no surprise that the example in section 9.56 of my 3rd ed. copy of EE doesn't help to cite the current website structure.

There is no longer a, “Statutory Births 1855–2013,” collection. It has been renamed. 

To reach the relevant search page, one now needs to select Advanced Search > Statutory Registers > Births from the main URL,

Citing the "1906 Canadian Census ..." from Ancestry

Dear Editor;

I've been trying to apply what I've learned from the citing of passenger records to citing the Canadian census records from Ancestry. Your "QuickLesson 26: Thinking Through Citations" has also been quite a help.

I've produced the following citation and would appreciate some feedback to ensure I'm on-track before proceeding with additional census citations.

Citation Style: How does one handle the "strange" ones?

Dear Editor;

I'm slowly working through the process of gathering corroborating information on the voyages of one of my ancestors. However; I am beginning to find that some of the citations are quite complex due to the way in which the reference information is presented by the source.

I've tried to leverage the examples in the Evidence Explained book, but the solution to some situations eludes me.