IrishGenealogy.ie - Dept of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs

With the recent introduction of 'images' on the IrishGenealogy.ie website, I am looking for some guidence for citing the image records available. These are 2 different citations I have come up with:

Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," database with images, IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016), marriage of John Law and Maggie Keys, 5 September 1905, Registration District/Office: Irvinestown; entry 179 of the 'copied register' of the Marriage Register Books of the Lack or Colaghty Church, belonging to the Church of Ireland in the County of Fermanagh, signed amd dated 16 October 1905 by James Waterson, Clergyman.

Colaghty Church of Ireland in the Parish of Lack or Colaghty (Fermanagh, Northern Ireland). 'Copied' register of the "Marriage Register Books," entry 179, marriage of marriage of John Law and Maggie Keys, 5 September 1905; imaged at Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016).

I have attached a copy of the image for reference.

Submitted byRobyn_62on Sun, 09/25/2016 - 02:29

Oops !! I pressed the save button before proof reading my query. Apologies.

Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," database with images, IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016), marriage of John Law and Maggie Keys, 5 September 1905, Registration District/Office: Irvinestown; entry 179 of the 'copied register' of the Marriage Register Books of the Lack or Colaghty Church, belonging to the Church of Ireland in the County of Fermanagh, signed and dated 16 October 1905 by James Waterson, Clergyman.

Colaghty Church of Ireland in the Parish of Lack or Colaghty (Fermanagh, Northern Ireland). 'Copied' register of the "Marriage Register Books," entry 179, marriage of John Law and Maggie Keys, 5 September 1905; imaged at Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016).

Further to this post, purely for my database tree software entry, I would prefer to use just one 'source' - i.e. Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. The records available from this website are from many Churches/Registration Districts.

 

Submitted byEEon Sun, 09/25/2016 - 10:01

Robyn, your desire to emphasize the website and its database is understandable. If you have numerous entries from this site, that approach would prevent bloating your source list with all the individual records from that site.

Because this source has open access, I've backtracked your source to see for myself exactly all the details that the site provides. I do see a couple of additional "identifiers" that seem to be essential. Also, clarity might be better achieved by placing the details in more-standard order, keeping details from each layer within its own layer:

Layer 1:

Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," database with images, IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016), image, marriage registration of John Law and Maggie Keys, 5 September 1905, Church of Ireland’s “Lack or Colaghty Church,” County Fermanagh;

Layer 2:

registration recorded 16 October 1905 by James Waterson, Clergyman, in Irvinestown Registration District, unidentified register, folio 113?, “second page,” stamped no. 05701003, entry 179.

To put them together, we would have

Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," database with images, IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016), image, marriage registration of John Law and Maggie Keys, 5 September 1905, Church of Ireland’s “Lack or Colaghty Church,” County Fermanagh; registration recordeded 16 October 1905 by James Waterson, Clergyman, in Irvinestown Registration District,unidentified register, folio 113?, “second page,” stamped no. 05701003, entry 179.

This still leaves us with one piece of data provided by the website’s database entry that we haven’t placed into the citation: “Group Registration ID 2044640.”  According to a discussion of this database at http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2014/07/new-irish-civil-registration-indexes.html, this number is a unique identifier assigned by the database to each individual registration. As such, a logical way to incorporate it into the citation would be this:

Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," database with images, IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ : accessed 25 September 2016), image, marriage registration of John Law and Maggie Keys (5 September 1905, Church of Ireland’s “Lack or Colaghty Church,” County Fermanagh), citing Group Registration ID 2044640; registration filed 16 October 1905 by James Waterson, Clergyman, in Irvinestown Registration District, unidentified register, folio 113?, “second page,” stamped no. 05701003, entry 179.

Submitted byRobyn_62on Sun, 09/25/2016 - 18:49

Dear Editor

Many thanks for your invaluable advice once again !

Robyn

Submitted bydsennon Thu, 09/29/2016 - 19:45

Hi EE,

I am like Robyn looking at the images on IrishGenealogy.ie and have used your above info in an attempt to create a citation for a birth registration image.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/37c8d41918635

Below is my attempt at the citation.

Department of Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, "Civil Records," database with images, IrishGenealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en : accessed 27 September 2016), image, birth registration of Rebecca Coulter (23 December 1870, County of Monaghan), citing Group Registration ID 11711852; registration filed 28 April 1871 by James McCullen, Deputy Registrar, in District of Glasslough in the Union of Monaghan in the County of Monaghan, certified 29 April 1871 by J. W. Mitchell, Superintendent Registrar, folio 321, stamped no. 02212482, entry 165.

Have I got it correct?

David

Submitted byEEon Fri, 09/30/2016 - 14:37

In reply to by dsenn

David, there is no one absolute "correct" way to cite any source. As researchers, we need to learn what the essentials are for various types of citations and then adapt them to what we have found. That's what you have done in this case. Our example was to a marriage registration imaged in an online database. You adapted it to a birth registration imaged in an online database. One might tweak this-or-that, but you have captured the essentials and expressed them clearly.